Preserve
Commit, status, System info, full log, exact artifacts and failing output.
A failure that appears after an update has a timeline, not yet a cause. Preserve the bad state, match one job across two exact commits, and recover in a separate folder.
Evidence boundary: behavior is inspected against original Forge commit dfdcbab. We did not reproduce a GPU regression locally. Your cause remains UNKNOWN until the matched pair passes.
full commit Aextensions offfull commit BRolling back restores service. A matched before/after comparison identifies whether the update belongs in the cause.
Commit, status, System info, full log, exact artifacts and failing output.
Clean current and clean known-good checkouts; one unchanged user job.
Isolate the changed layer, recover separately, then file the smallest report.
Choose the first broken user job. The branch tells you which variables must be locked before comparing commits.
Save the first console traceback before the browser disconnect. Start a separate clean current checkout with extra extensions disabled. If that starts, the update exposed local state or an extension; if it fails the same way, compare it with the saved known-good commit.
Use the same checkpoint hash, components, prompt, negative prompt, seed, dimensions, sampler, scheduler, steps, CFG, preset and memory settings. Disable extra extensions. A different image alone is not attributable until those inputs match.
Run the updated build with --disable-extra-extensions. If core Forge works, re-enable only the affected extension and record its own commit. A Gradio or dependency error inside that extension is not yet a core regression.
Record the diffusion model, VAE, CLIP and T5 filenames and hashes, quantization format, LoRA source and preset. NF4, GGUF, FP8 and full-precision artifacts are different test subjects, even when their names look related.
Do not compare one cold first run with a warmed run. Keep artifact, settings, GPU Weights, swap controls, flags and extension state fixed; retain all measured runs and both full console logs.
Keep the failing installation intact long enough to save commit, status, sysinfo, logs and the test job. Restore the known-good state in a separate folder. Recovery gets you working; it does not by itself prove the update caused the failure.
Stop when a step cannot be satisfied. The honest result may be UNKNOWN, and that is more useful than a false regression claim.
Stop changing Forge, extensions, drivers, Python packages and model files. Save the first failure, complete console log and failing output before retrying.
Record the original repository URL and full Forge commit for the last known-good run and current failing run. “Latest” is not a reproducible version.
Save artifact filenames and hashes, prompt, seed, dimensions, sampler, scheduler, steps, CFG, preset, memory controls, launch flags and extension state.
Run the exact job again on the current installation. If it does not fail reliably, label the incident intermittent and preserve each outcome.
Use a separate clean checkout at the current commit, its own environment and no extra extensions. Add only the required model files and the smallest reproducer.
Use another separate checkout at the saved commit with its own environment. Repeat the same artifact and job; do not reuse a mutated venv as proof.
If clean current passes, add the saved configuration, then one extension or optional component at a time until the failure returns.
Keep a working known-good copy for production. File a report only after the smallest current-fails / known-good-passes comparison can be repeated.
The commit is one variable. Everything else must match or be written down as a limitation.
| Layer | Record | Acceptance condition |
|---|---|---|
| Source | Original lllyasviel repository + full commit | Same repository; named old and new commits |
| Environment | OS, GPU, driver, Python, Torch, CUDA/runtime packages | Same where possible; differences explicitly listed |
| Artifacts | Model, VAE, CLIP/T5, LoRA and hashes | Exactly the same files |
| Generation | Prompt, negative prompt, seed, size, sampler, scheduler, steps, CFG | Exactly the same values |
| Forge controls | Preset, GPU Weights, swap method/location, low bits, flags | Exactly the same values |
| Extensions | Names, commits and enabled state | None for core proof; matched for extension proof |
| Evidence | Full console log, output, elapsed/memory records | Saved for both sides |
--dump-sysinfo are not equivalentThe current full implementation can record commit, Git status, command line, Torch environment, settings, packages and extra-extension revisions. The command-line help describes --dump-sysinfo as limited and without extension or option information. Use the limited dump when startup fails, then add the omitted state manually.
The clean current run is the hinge: it separates source behavior from accumulated local state.
Repeat once more, narrow the first bad commit if practical, then report both logs and the minimal job.
Recheck the artifact, environment, test recipe and whether the alleged known-good state was actually reconstructed.
Restore the saved configuration in layers and keep a run ledger. Do not file a deterministic core-regression claim.
Add one layer at a time. Route extension failures to the extension diagnostic and environment failures to their owning guide.
These conditions regularly produce a convincing timeline while leaving the true cause uncontrolled.
A similarly named NF4, GGUF, FP8 or full-precision file is a different artifact. Match filename and hash.
A random seed guarantees a different output. Reuse a fixed integer and retain the generation parameters.
Forge and extension changes are two variables. Save every extension revision and test core without extras.
Checking out source does not restore installed Python packages. Separate environments make the version comparison interpretable.
Shared config or command-line arguments can carry the failing condition into a “clean” folder. Start with defaults, then add them back.
A stale frontend can survive a source restart. Close old tabs, confirm the serving process and capture browser-console errors for UI failures.
First launch, model load and compilation/cache work differ from repeated generation. Keep cold observations outside the warm series.
The official performance note warns that leaving no computation headroom can cause severe slowdown. Match the value before comparing commits.
reForge, Forge Classic and Forge Neo are separate products. A failure there is not evidence about original Forge.
Record Git status and diff. A dirty checkout cannot cleanly attribute behavior to the named upstream commit.
The July 2024 F0.0.17 package is a dated snapshot and predates original Forge FLUX support. It is not a generic FLUX rollback.
An old build working can restore service, but the exact paired test is still needed to prove which update caused the incident.
This page determines the cause. The update guide owns the exact backup, Git checkout and package rollback procedure.
Current commit, full log, System info, test job and output. Do not clean or overwrite it before capture.
Saved commit, independent environment, same artifact and no extra extensions for the first run.
STALE SNAPSHOTDo not use F0.0.17 as a generic FLUX rollback. The official previous archive was published before original Forge FLUX support. Restore the commit that you actually proved with the required workflow.
This local checklist uploads and stores nothing. Completing it does not assert a bug; it makes the comparison reproducible.
Ready means another person can run the same job on both commits.
Search existing issues first. Report original Forge only when the reproduced state belongs to the original repository.
Name the first broken user job and the first-bad commit; avoid “latest is broken.”
State current-fails / known-good-passes, or use UNKNOWN when that pair is incomplete.
Number the smallest actions starting from a clean current checkout with extra extensions disabled.
Describe the measurable difference and attach the matched outputs when visual.
Link the original repository and provide both complete Forge hashes plus Git status.
Attach reviewed System info and both complete console logs; redact personal paths, tokens and public-share URLs.
List exact model/component filenames, hashes and legitimate publisher pages; do not upload third-party model files.
Say none, or list each exact extension remote and commit when the extension is essential to reproduce.
“Reproduces on current clean install; last-good commit unknown” is actionable and honest. It is not the same claim as a proven regression.
These questions cover the audited long-tail set without splitting identical diagnostic work across thin pages.
Reproduce one unchanged job on a clean checkout of the current commit and a separate clean checkout of the last known-good commit. If current fails repeatedly while known-good passes and the environment, artifacts and settings match, you have credible evidence of an update regression.
Stop changing files. Save the complete console log, current commit, Git status, System info, launch arguments and failing output. Then test a separate clean current install with extra extensions disabled.
A Git checkout can use git rev-parse HEAD. Forge also prints a commit hash during launch. Use the complete hash in your notes rather than “latest.”
Last-good is the newest exact commit where your controlled job passes. First-bad is the earliest exact commit where the same job fails. A large gap identifies a boundary but not the individual change.
Yes for a credible core claim. A separate clean current checkout removes accumulated source edits, extension code and environment history from the first comparison.
It is possible, but it is weaker evidence because the venv, generated files and settings may remain changed. A separate checkout with its own environment is safer and easier to compare.
No. Git changes tracked source files; it does not reconstruct the exact previously installed Python environment. That is why each comparison checkout should have its own environment.
Not first. Preserve evidence and identify the failure boundary. If you need a clean environment, create it in a separate checkout or rename the verified Forge-local venv so the previous state remains recoverable.
Start current Forge with --disable-extra-extensions. If core generation passes, enable only the affected extension and record its remote and commit. Test cross-extension pairs only when each extension passes alone.
That result implicates an extra extension or extension interaction, not core Forge. Continue with the extension and Gradio diagnostic instead of rolling back the core immediately.
Built-in extensions still load with that flag. For a deeper diagnostic, --disable-all-extensions prevents all extensions from loading. Record which flag produced each result.
Do not assume the source changed first. Match the diffusion model and hash, quantization, VAE, CLIP-L, T5, preset, memory controls and extension state. Then compare clean current and known-good commits.
No as a generic FLUX rollback. The official previous F0.0.17 archive was published in July 2024 before original Forge added FLUX support. Use a commit you personally verified with your FLUX workflow.
Prompt alone is not a fixed job. Match the exact artifact hashes, seed, size, sampler, scheduler, steps, CFG, VAE/text encoders, preset, extensions and relevant Forge controls.
Use the dedicated benchmark protocol: same hardware and artifacts, matched settings, separate cold and warm observations, multiple retained runs, and full logs for both named commits.
No. First-run loading, caching, temperature and background work can distort one observation. Repeat a controlled warm series and retain all results.
The full System info implementation records Forge version and commit, Git status, command line, Torch environment, hardware, settings, packages, enabled and inactive extra-extension revisions, and startup information. Review it before sharing.
No. At the inspected commit, the command-line help explicitly describes --dump-sysinfo as limited and without extension or option information. Use it for a startup failure, but add the missing state manually.
Review local paths, usernames, tokens, authentication values, private remotes, prompts and public share URLs. Forge hides matching Gradio/API auth arguments in System info, but you still need to inspect the file and logs.
Use the original lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge issue tracker after searching for an existing report. Do not report a fork-specific failure as an original Forge bug.
Yes, if you first preserve the failing commit, logs, System info and minimal job. Restore a known-good state in another folder so recovery does not erase the evidence.
The exact boundary is UNKNOWN. Inspect logs, old System info, folder copies or launch screenshots for a hash. If none exists, establish a new baseline instead of guessing an old version.
Label it intermittent, record every pass and failure, and look for uncontrolled differences such as memory pressure, extension order, shared state or warm/cold conditions. Do not present it as deterministic.
One original-repository issue, one smallest repeatable job, current-fails / known-good-passes evidence, both complete commits and logs, reviewed System info, exact artifacts, extension state, and clear expected versus actual behavior.
Dated tutorials and incidents reveal failure patterns. They do not establish universal behavior or overwrite current original-Forge code.
System info, extension-disable behavior and inspected head are tied to dfdcbab.
Issues show real report shapes and symptoms, not a universal root cause.
Announcements, release and transcript retain their dates and capability boundaries.
No cause is assigned until the matched current-fails / known-good-passes pair exists.
Catalog source checked again: one F0.0.17 archive published 22 July 2024; not a universal rollback.
↗Catalog source and fresh API check identify the inspected main head and exact change history.
↗Maintainer warned that some extensions could break; the 2024 percentage is not a current guarantee.
↗Maintainer asks for full before/after logs around named commits and warns against mismatched models and settings.
↗Full transcript checked: commit lookup, dated rollback scripts and old/new feature boundaries; commands were not adopted as authority.
↗User language for Gradio/update failures; anecdotal, fork suggestions excluded.
↗Update/reinstall intent from the catalog; inaccessible in the fresh pass and not used as product proof.
↗Fresh code inspection: commit, status, environment, config, package and extension revision fields.
↗Fresh code inspection: disable-extra, disable-all and limited dump-sysinfo flags.
↗Fresh code inspection: exact behavior of both extension-disable flags.
↗Maintainer backup warning and dated 29be1da pre-change reference.
↗Fresh issue review: clean install, extension checklist, steps, sysinfo and complete logs; symptom is not generalized.
↗Fresh issue review: core generation worked while multiple extension callbacks failed after a dated update.
↗Fresh issue review: user requested an old version after extension failures; request alone does not prove cause.
↗Fresh API check on 3 September 2026: dfdcbab, dated 26 June 2025.
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